Masters Student Dismissed for Corporal Punishment Beliefs
February 16, 2005

WorldNetDaily reports:

A master's student at a New York college was kicked out of the graduate education program because of what officials claim was a "mismatch" between his personal beliefs and the goals of the program.

According to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, or FIRE, a nonprofit group, the trouble began when Le Moyne College master's student Scott McConnell wrote a paper that advocated "strong discipline and hard work" in the classroom and an environment that allows "corporal punishment."

Oh man that's funny. Could be because I'm writing this at 4:39 in the morning. Could be because it's funny. I'm not going to argue for or against corporal punishment in schools. I think that's a parent-mandated thing. But considering the popularity of shows like "The Supernanny" where a stern British woman has to come help pathetic American families parent their wayward children...yeah, you get the point. See my post "Spanking: the best way to save tax dollars" for more clarity.

(Brief caveat: Mkay, so I've seen once and read enough about this "Supernanny" show to get the gist. What I don't get is what type of parent pleads with a 4-year-old who hit them, called them a "poo-poo-head," and then screamed bloody murder for 5 minutes. Maybe it's cultural, but I'm 23, I'm grown, I pay my own bills, and if I ever called my mother a poo-poo-head, I'd be picking up the pieces of my face from the other side of the room.)

Posted by Ambra at February 16, 2005 4:35 AM in Education
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All of those nanny shows are pure comedy.

I seriously hope that everything that occurs can be attributed to a great editing staff.

I guess it's a cultural thing, but I just don't get why parents allow their children to be in charge. I say that, because I wasn't raised in that sort of culture.

Parents who allow 2 year olds to run the show get what they deserve-anarchy run by a little despot. Yes, they are little despots. No, I don't believe in the inherent goodness of children. I believe in original sin.

I'm sure my views are not typical and I'm sure I'll catch some heat for them.

Too bad Scott McConnell isn't a tenured professor. Then he could do or say whatever popped into his head.

Yeah...I think spanking will be outlawed in the not-so-distant future. That's not a good thing.

I'm not a big fan of corporal punishment but to make mere discussion of it a hanging offense a la holocaust denial pretty well reveals the utter emptiness of many peoples' notion of "academic freedom."

It's comical that a university education department would be so outraged by the suggestion of corporal punishment. Education departments are so not getting it done, you'd think they would welcome anything new.

I know it's not new, but it is new to many. Have you seen the chaos they call first grade today? Never in Mrs. Corwin's class back in '64.

I think spanking a child should be a constitutional right.

I put up with the occasional spanking years ago. As a wannabe parent, I should only be afforded the same right.

Scott, you are right on in your views on the innate nature of children. They are small beasts that must be domesticated. They are quite charming, it's true, but they're also completely uncivilized. I firmly believe in consistent rules consistently enforced. Spanking can be a useful tool in discipline.

I have to admit that I once threatened to leave my husband if he didn't stop smacking our kids, who were quite young at the time. Smacking a toddler is completely useless, all it does is scare them to pieces. Older children can connect the pain/surprise to the action they've just committed and so it can be effective. I can't remember the last time I actually spanked any of my kids (now 4, 6, 8); usually the threat of a spank ("How many spanks do you want?" "None!" "Good, then cut that out right now!") is enough to get the job done. However, that is true only because my kids know I will whack them if they need to be whacked.

All that said, mosttimes a quick whap on the butt is a good way to get their attention and help them snap out of whatever it is that they shouldn't be doing. It is much more effective to impose consequences with some lasting effect (such as taking away the toy they were fighting over) than it is to spank.

Another facet of the whole spanking thing is that some kids are completely devastated by a swat, others couldn't care less, no matter how many times they get spanked. Discipline always, always has to be tailored to the child. There is no one-size-fits-all.

My only thoughts on corporal punishment in the classroom: in 3rd grade, the kid in sitting in front of me was always getting in trouble. One day our teacher swatted at him with a sheaf of rolled up papers, and he ducked, and she got me full in the face. That was well over 30 years ago and I still haven't forgotten about it. From this, I recommend that it be practiced with extreme caution.

Aw man, you missed your chance!
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