February 10, 2005
Thursday's Missive: Most Disturbing Films

I haven't done one of these in awhile.

I can probably count on one hand the number of times each year I physically walk into a movie theater to watch a film. This is generally because I'm protective of my time, and if I'm going to veg out for two and a half hours in a dark room with sticky floors and a heavy-breather/loud popcorn eater sitting on my right, smacking on bonbons like it's their last meal on earth, (no offense against heavy-breathers), it had better be worth my while. Seeing "Men in Black II" on the big screen makes you change your whole attitude about movie going.

For this reason alone, I usually catch most flicks on DVD. I don't watch scary movies because call me crazy, but I like to be able to walk from my car to my front door at night without envisioning random and far-fetched scenarios I just had fed to me via some poorly written thriller whose suspense rests solely on the intensity of the musical score.

So understand when I say "disturbing" I don't necessarily mean scary. Although everyone I know put the film "Se7en" (which I haven't seen) in both categories. My list of most disturbing films is probably odd to some, but when I see something that's not right, it irks me. Below are a few more recent films I could have happily done without. Not because of the quality, but only because of the content:

  • Closer - (I should've read the synopsis first) The human search for significance. Sex. Lies. It was off on so many levels.
  • American Beauty - This film disgusts me. If this is a snapshot of the American family, we have much to fear.
  • A Beautiful Mind - I know it won an academy award and all, but the man needed more than medication.
  • Bamboozled - This film was promising, then about halfway through, Spike Lee got messy with his message and jacked it all up.
  • Junior - A man giving birth. It's just wrong.
  • Terms of Endearment - I haven't made it through this movie without cringing
  • Open Waters - One word: sharks.
  • The Nutty Professor (don't hate) - fat people have feelings too
Spare me further disappointment by naming other disturbing films.

Posted by Ambra at February 10, 2005 04:01 AM

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The Village--Ya just don't send the bling girl into the woods. Scrap the stupid oath for goodness sake.

Saving Private Ryan- Too much gore. Hated it.

Taxi Driver- The only movie I have ever walked out of.

Posted by: Miz Booshay at February 10, 2005 06:07 AM


How about Mulan II? I want to blog on this but am not sure I can reach the keyboard through my disgust.

Posted by: drstat at February 10, 2005 06:26 AM


I just rented "Best in Show" because people said it was better than "This is Spinal Tap," which I loved. "Best in Show" was rated PG-13 but should've been rated R because it was really vulgar. It seemed that all the characters except one had perverse sexual stuff going on, and it seemed that practically every scene had vulgar jokes. A total disappointment that didn't have to be so gross.

Posted by: mj at February 10, 2005 07:12 AM


Well Ambra, I have to say that I usually agree with your views but I have to disagree with one of your choices. I loved "A Beautiful Mind." I think that anybody that can overcome their own personal demons and make something of themselves is a hero. I do, however, agree with your choice of "Junior". That was pretty retarded from the get go.

MJ, I'm just curious how you could find "Best in Show" more offensive than "This is Spinal Tap." I enjoyed both films but as for vulgarity, I think that Spinal Tap takes first place. "The softer the cushion the sweeter the pushin'"? I do believe those lyrics along with others would qualify it as more vulgar than any movie about a dog show. Besides that you've got their album cover for "Sniff the Glove" which was a bound woman sniffing a glove. Maybe you just don't like dogs.

But that's just my opinion.

Posted by: spencer at February 10, 2005 08:14 AM


Terms of Endearment - worst movie ever made; NOT a date movie, for sure (don't ask how I know...)

Apocalypse Now - horrific flick with few redeeming qualities; should have left when Brando popped up.

Willard - I begged my dad to take me to see it as a child, then ran screaming out of the theater about 20 minutes in. I have hated Ernest Borgnine ever since. And rats.

Posted by: Glen at February 10, 2005 09:32 AM


Lemony Snickets: A Series of Unfortunate Events - COMPLETELY boring and stupid. It would be a waste of $ to even rent it.

Lost in Translation - I watched this with a friend of mine... we both hated it! Dull and boring with some really inappropriate stuff in certain parts. Gigantic waste of good talent and money.

Posted by: Janna at February 10, 2005 09:45 AM


"Chicago" & "Moulin Rouge." I get woosy just thinking about them.

Oh yea, the movie remake of "The Grinch." Maybe it was because his shoes were too small. I don't know.

But I DO know that it wasn't because he was MISUNDERSTOOD!

Posted by: Steven J. Kelso Sr. at February 10, 2005 09:56 AM


Solaris - First time I've rented a movie and turned it off midaway. VERY boring.

City of Angels - Bunch of Christians suggested I see it. Afterward I was depressed for days. It was beyond sad for those who believe in God.

Matrix 3 - Patched together with a little sex and swearing thrown in. I won't bother buying it to complete the trilogy.

For outstanding movie reviews before you spend the money try screenit.com.

Posted by: M. La Roi at February 10, 2005 10:20 AM


TOMMY - "The Who" - best seen by the blind. Good music trashed on the screen.

Posted by: campe at February 10, 2005 10:27 AM


elektra - BORING. half-assed. terribly written.

alien vs. predator - whyyyyy? and how did they ever get funding?

Posted by: kim at February 10, 2005 11:40 AM


yo, ya'll should check out "The Aviator"...real strange. I had no idea people with OCD could be that CREEPY.

one other one: Ray. BAM!! Will make you believe that Jamie is RC's son.

peace,

Gina

Posted by: Gina R Johnson at February 10, 2005 11:53 AM


Got "Dodgeball" to watch and let my 3 year old watch too.. What was I thinking??? Totally bad, we all just felt gross (too much 12-year old potty humor), then it ended with this out-of-nowhere lesbian kiss. I thought it would be a silly comedy. The next day I had to tell him that it was a "bad movie" and mommy is sorry that she let you watch it....

Posted by: Shawna at February 10, 2005 01:28 PM


I positively loathe American Beauty. I reviewed it here at some length. Bad, bad movie.

What else did I hate? Ambra, how could you leave off Titanic? (The link is to my not-review rant about it.) It wasn't disturbing, really, it just was... bad.

Like you, I try very hard not to waste precious minutes of life on bad movies. From my time over at Epinions I know quite a few good online movie reviewers, and I consider it a public service that they are willing to go to bad movies and point them out to us, thereby sparing us the trouble.

My husband likes schlocky horror movies ("Army of Darkness") and I've come to "appreciate" them for what they are. I love scifi/action movies ("Terminator", any edition, etc) I've seen tons of mediocre movies, but few that really bother me, except in one category: children's animated films. I could list scores of movies that are just very bad for children -- even (or perhaps especially) the latest Winnie the Pooh movies that Disney has churned out. I mean, c'mon? The premise of The Tigger Movie is that Tigger goes looking for his family. Huh? Everyone knows that the most wonderful thing about tiggers is... [he's] the only one!

Posted by: Joan at February 10, 2005 01:33 PM


Waiting To Exhale- Supposedly about "sistah-hood" but I always thought it was about 4 desperate black women who base their self-worth on whether or not they have "A MAN". Even worse than the sucky book, IMHO.

Posted by: Jasmin at February 10, 2005 01:36 PM


Agree with most of your movies, especially American Beauty... typical Hollywood slanted view of American families.

As for the woman who let her three year old watch Dodgeball, I found it stupidly funny, but how on earth could you possibly let anyone under the age of 16 see it???

Posted by: Todd at February 10, 2005 02:32 PM


I only got about 20 minutes into 'Secret Window' before shutting the DVD player off. Didn't even get that far with 'The Grudge'. Heard enough about 'Hanibal' to never want to see that one.

Posted by: Ray Phelps at February 10, 2005 03:01 PM


I loved a beautiful mind. That is until I read a bit about the real John Nash, who was far more crazy in a much less exciting way. Still though I felt the movie was pretty well done, but after seeing the Sixth Sense you could kind of see the plot twist coming.

I hated open water, who really wants to see a married couple bicker at each other after being left behind to die? Oh yeah, and the wife was right. They should have at least made an effor to swim to that first boat.

I'm with you on American Beauty too, horrible movie. I wonder if that is what Ward Cleaver was really like?

Movies that suck.. anything by Oliver Stone. No exceptions not even Platoon.

Posted by: Rob Abbe at February 10, 2005 03:48 PM


Ray: is "Secret Window" that one with Johnny Depp? If so, I saw that by force and was disturbed.

Jasmin: co-sign on Waiting to Exhale. I wholeheartedly dislike Terri McMillan's work.

Spencer: I guess my general dilemma with "A Beautiful Mind" is that John Nash didn't overcome anything. Subdued it maybe, but the final scenes of the film indicate no type of restoration whatsoever.

And then there's that bathtub scene where he almost kills the kid. That was it for me.

Posted by: Ambra Nykol at February 10, 2005 05:30 PM


Todd,

I know suburban families like those presented in American Beauty. Parents spearated from the homelife and kids off doing what they want. It was a refreshing and startling view of some of the things that REALLY happen nowadays. It was also entertaining.

I've realized that going to the movies to be entertained is much better than trying to receive some dose of "moral values."

Ambra,

I agree on Bamboozled. I thought there would be much more satire, but Spike took himself a bit too seriously with this one. There was no need for this to be over two hours. I fast-forwarded through the film after it hit the one hour mark. I think the last Spike Lee Joint I enjoyed was Clockers and that was a decade ago.

Other bad films: Anything by M. Night Shyamalan. He's 0/4 with me. Also, I agree with City of Angels. What a manipulative piece of garbage. Also, The Life of David Gale. Manipulative. I'm against the death penalty and even that one ticked me off.

Getting to the movies is fairly important to me. I don't mind watching smaller comedies/dramas on DVD, but I always have to watch an action movie on the big screen before it's released on DVD. I'm sorry, but Twister on the small screen just doesn't compare to a 30-foot screen.

Posted by: Mike M. at February 10, 2005 05:50 PM


Here's an old one that creeps me out every time I think about it, and I haven't seen it for 30 years. It was a made-for-TV film starring Hope Lange called, "Crowhaven Farm." It was a low-key horror flick in the style of Hitchcock -- the kind of fright that burrows into the back of your subconscious like a clam running from the rake.

Also, "The Deerhunter." Couldn't sleep for days after I saw that.

And for some strange reason, I have a visceral reaction of disgust every time I see Gene Wilder in "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory."

Posted by: Laserlawyer at February 10, 2005 05:55 PM


Laser,

I used to love Willy Wonka...but it's definitely creepy. I'm looking forward to Tim Burton's remake starring Johnny Depp this summer.

Posted by: Mike M. at February 10, 2005 06:11 PM


Ambra, John Nash's condition is not one from which a person can recover. You can medicate the symptoms away, more or less, but it is a fundamental brain disorder that is not curable.

I don't hold that against Nash. The baby-in-the-bath scene was horrifying, but in Nash's mind, his friend was taking care of the baby. It was a powerful representation of how sick he was.

"A Beautiful Mind" had many flaws, particularly in the way it greatly downplayed the accomplishements of Nash's wife, but also in giving some people the impression that Nash could be easily cured. There was some outcry among psychiatric professionals about that aspect of the movie at the time -- it's just not typical for someone suffering from Nash's disorder to be able to recover to the point of being able to make something of his life.

Anyway -- I found it hopeful, and I admire Nash's accomplishments in the face of seemingly insurmountable obstacles.

Posted by: Joan at February 10, 2005 07:24 PM


"John Nash's condition is not one from which a person can recover. You can medicate the symptoms away, more or less, but it is a fundamental brain disorder that is not curable."

See, as a follower of Jesus Christ, I have a problem with this. The God we serve is way bigger than any mental condition, and last I checked my Bible, He was capable to heal and deliver all from any infirmity.

With man, these things are impossible, but with God, all things are possible.

Posted by: Ambra Nykol at February 10, 2005 07:32 PM


Spencer: I know--Spinal Tap had plenty of vulgar moments. But I think because it was in the context of a "documentary" of a band that made it seem more "appropriate" than Best in Show. What does sexual behavior have to do with a dog show? But we all know that bands can be over-the-top decadent. I think Spinal Tap was hilarious because there are bands like that. But you're the comedian, I'm just a simple consumer ;)

Posted by: mj at February 10, 2005 08:02 PM


I know a lady who was healed from Manic Depression (bipolar disorder), which is supposedly, 'incurable', and only treatable.

Anyone remember "The Last Dragon"? Pretty much any scene where that lady with the pink hair is singing one of her songs...ugh. I Found Your Dirty Magazines? What?!

I now know that they were making fun of Cindy Lauper, but as a young man I never understood it.

Posted by: Alex at February 11, 2005 03:33 AM


Hey..Jesus walked around healing the paralytics(sp?), the mentally oppressed, the blind, and the deaf. Greater works ya'll...greater works.

Re: "Best in Show," I heard through the grapevine that this was funny. But if it's a la "Waiting for Guffman," then I'll opt out. Where did satire ever go wrong?

Re: "Willy Wonka," aren't they coming out with a remake of this in '05?

Posted by: Ambra Nykol at February 11, 2005 05:17 AM


Yes-Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka! He looks weird and very girlish.

My college boys think Willy Wonka is freaky too!

Posted by: Miz Booshay at February 11, 2005 06:30 AM


Ambra: Warning: Best in Show will have sexual jokes and references. Even in the very first scene. I was unpleasantly surprised and so was my husband.

Posted by: mj at February 11, 2005 06:39 AM


My prefered tactic for dealing with this sort of movie is to imagine three little silhouttes in the bottom right hand corner of the screen and provide the snarky commentary that goes with it. This works best when you're watching with a friend. I had loads of fun seeing AVP, even though it stunk on so many levels, because heckling it with friends was so much fun.

"You can't kill me! I'm the main character!"

Posted by: Nathan Azinger at February 11, 2005 10:10 AM


Any movie that has a man murdering people while dressed as a woman. I absolutely cannot watch Psycho or Dressed to Kill. They freak me out. Watching them gave me a serious phobia. Anytime I see a man dressed as a woman in any situation (on film, or in real life), I become almost frozen with fear.

Posted by: seal-lover at February 11, 2005 08:07 PM


Have to agree with ya about American Beauty(didn't see) and Titanic(what a waste of potential and money on some cheap sex)!! Here's one that wasn't mentioned- The Piano with Holly Hunter and that young girl, Anna Paquin who won an Oscar too! I was so embarrassed to see that movie in the theater with my mom! I walked out to the bathroom when the girl was witnessing Harvey Keitel in his birthday suit! That's just wrong!

Also watched part of this one with my mom which I highly regretted the minute it started with an F--- word -- Fargo! What a trashy movie that also won Oscars. Why does Hollywood have to call trashy movies "bold and daring" when all they are is CRAP!

There's my two cents.

Posted by: Meredith B. at February 12, 2005 08:05 AM


The God we serve is way bigger than any mental condition, and last I checked my Bible, He was capable to heal and deliver all from any infirmity.

"Mental condition", Ambra? Nash had a brain chemistry imbalance that, when it all gets boiled down, isn't all that different from my cancer: the body works against itself.

With God, all things are possible, it's true. But are you similarly dismissive of the accomplishments of anyone else suffering from a chronic, debilitating disease, because the Lord hasn't seen fit to grant them remission, in addition to giving them the ability to achieve their lives' works? Shouldn't we be appreciative of what we do have?

There are many lessons to be learned from suffering, whether it is our own, or others'.

Posted by: Joan at February 12, 2005 10:51 AM


Joan, I'm not dismissing anyone's accomplishments in spite of infirmity. All I'm saying is as followers of Jesus Christ, we shouldn't camp out at medication as the final means to a person's healing. That's what bothered me about the film. At the end of the film, Nash wasn't healed, he was just coping.

Chemistry imbalance isn't a problem God can't handle, nor is cancer. He's healed people many times of cancer. I know many who have testimonies. Does everyone get healed? No. But that doesn't mean it isn't possible, and it certainly doesn't mean we should stop believing.

We can't begin to understand the sovereignty of God and why some get healed and others don't, but ultimately, my problem with how our society treats mental conditions is that we flat out don't believe people can be healed from certain sickness.

We're just content with the concept of medicating and coping, and living with illness forever because it's been medically stated that something's "incurable". Doctors are great, but they have human limitations. That's why we have the Great Physician.

The Bible spoke of many with incurable illnesses, some where healed, others were not. However, one of the focuses of Christ and the power of His resurrection is we can now receive healing in His name, deliverance in His name, restoration in His name, and so on.

Quite simply, that's not the worldview I have.

Posted by: Ambra Nykol at February 12, 2005 11:45 AM


Sorry for the delayed response. 'Secret Window' is the Depp flick (or at least the one I'm thinking about). I think that as I age :(( I'm getting less patient with the cheap thriller.

Posted by: Ray Phelps at February 14, 2005 05:10 PM


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