October 15, 2004
More Cringe-Worthy Hip-Hop Lunacy

I must express my displeasure with the attitude of many in the hip-hop community as it relates to their remarks on the current state of our nation. The apathy is disgraceful. In that respect, I can say that I somewhat appreciate efforts like the Hip-Hop Action Summit Network and Sean Combs's "Vote or Die" campaign. Somewhat. However lacking important elements, at least there is a palpable sense that the culture should even give a care about politics. That's more than we've been able to say in the past.

Still, hip-hop culture is not without its "heroes" who are willing to make idiotic political statements a la "Cameron Diaz" for the newspapers to report. The media bothers me in that reporting-wise, they represent the "part" of the culture as the "sum" and it only gives more ammunition to the many who think hip-hop is worthless.

A few days ago, reports surfaced in the New York Daily News about now defunct rapper-producer, KRS-One who I personally think is "all washed up" (and at age 39, is notably too old to still be called a "rapper") and his remarks of pleasure in the wake of the events of 9/11. At a recent New York Festival panel discussion, KRS-One falsely noted that many blacks "cheered" when 9/11 happened. File this under "Dumb and dumberer".

In their article titled "KRS-One, decency zero", the NY Daily News reported:

"The hip-hop anarchist has declared his solidarity with Al Qaeda by asserting that he and other African-Americans "cheered when 9/11 happened."

The rapper, whose real name is Kris Parker, defiled the memory of those who died in the terrorist attacks as he spouted off at a recent New Yorker Festival panel discussion.

"I say that proudly," the Boogie Down Productions founder went on, insisting that, before the attack, security guards kept black people out of the Trade Center "because of the way we talk and dress.

"So when the planes hit the building, we were like, 'Mmmm - justice.'"

The atrocity of 9/11 "doesn't affect us [the hip-hop community]," he said. "9/11 happened to them, not us," he added, explaining that by "them" he meant "the rich ... those who are oppressing us. RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations."

Parker's screed drew a loud boo from novelist Tom Kelly, who was in the audience. "I lost six friends there on 9/11," Kelly told us afterward.

Parker also sneered at efforts by other rappers to get young people to vote.

"Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption," he added. "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place."

Since this has made the press KRS-One has issued a statement, claiming his comments were taken out of context by the Daily News. Still, he never refuted that the comments were his,
"These are not my views only; these views represent a popular truth that few people are really ready to hear. No one wished death on anyone or just sat and "cheered when 911 happened". But....
You can read the rest yourself. The presence of the "but" means he's about to make a statement that will refute his initial assertion. This is the type of press I question is even worth discussing. For the record, KRS-One does not represent what much of the hip-hop community feels towards one of our nation's bleakest of moments.

I'm sorry, but using some sort of ongoing "beef" with record label and radio executives as a means for excusing the fact that thousands of lives were lost senselessly isn't even logical and in my opinion, a poor excuse for "consciousness". I like Cobb's commentary,

"Intemoleckshual rapper KRS-One recently confirmed his solidarity with the imaginary class of the permanently oppressed American - the All-Purpose Nigger. The APN cannot overcome, cannot rise, cannot succeed and is permanently under the thumb of 'history' and is incapable of any emotions other than alienation, paranoia and fantasies of revenge.

The atrocity of 9-11 "doesn't affect us the hip-hop community," he said. "9-11 happened to them, not us," he added, explaining that by "them" he meant "the rich ... those who are oppressing us. RCA or BMG, Universal, the radio stations."

Parker also sneered at efforts by other rappers to get young people to vote.

"Voting in a corrupt society adds more corruption," he added. "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place."

But I see what the problem is here. We're taking entertainers a little bit too seriously, and so they take themselves a little bit too seriously. This is to be expected in a nation of millions. If there are 365 million Americans, there has got to be at least one with a million who watch who is wrong, stupid and popular.

It's not so important that KRS isn't thinking outside of his box. I understand him to be a good-hearted fellow. And I'm really not concerned that young kids may be listening and get the wrong perspective, because attitudes such as that are self-destructive. Nobody with any real stake in America is going to give him props, so America is not at risk. There is a certain level of power you simply can't get thinking like that.

A man who is oppressed by a radio station needs several books, quick.

My brain bows to Cobb's words. He is smart indeed.

More Conservative Brotherhood members have weighed in on this event. Baldilocks says, "Few expect rappers in general to be rocket scientists or practitioners of politically-correct rhetoric of any stripe. However, this, of course is well over any imaginable line." While Molotov of Booker Rising harshly informs KRS One, "Luckily our ancestors weren't nihilistic, or else you wouldn't be where you are today. Name another country where black folks are better off. "

Needless to say, folks aren't too happy, nor am I. But I must say, there is a bit of submerged truth couched in one of KRS One's comments, "America has to commit suicide if the world is to be a better place." Although, I am certain he didn't intend for it to come across the way I took it, I do think that America needs to die to herself to some degree. That of course, is no justification for KRS One's shifty commentary.

This election has given me some good fodder for a future "Celebrities gone wild" DVD series.

Posted by Ambra at October 15, 2004 01:16 PM

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Isn't KRS-One also supposedly a man of god? The same man of god who got in a rap 'battle' with Nelly?

I wouldn't take much of anything he has to say seriously.

Posted by: Alex at October 15, 2004 02:33 PM


Dude is just trying to stay relevant and on the scene. I guess now we can look forward to a Larry King interview yeaaaaaa !

Posted by: Eric at October 15, 2004 02:40 PM


Pssh. One of my girls went toe to toe with him at a lecture he gave at H.arvard Law School a few weeks back. He was going on and on about how WE SHOULDN'T VOTE. Period. Then he tried to get his agenda going, which had something or other to do with some resolution he had drawn up with the UN. Clearly he is crazy.

Posted by: Ethel at October 15, 2004 07:37 PM


Well, I'm not sure this KRS One has really thought this through. After all, if America "commits suicide," how is he going to get all the obscene money and welath he has thus far gained.

Posted by: Diane R. at October 15, 2004 07:44 PM


Great post, Ambra. But I do have to take exception to one comment: "and at age 39, is notably too old to still be called a "rapper"

I know you kids today think you invented hip-hop but its been around for a long time now. In fact, I think you have it backwards. I don't think that anyone under 30 should be called a "rapper." All the great rappers were born long before 1975 -- Kool Herc; Kurtis Blow; Wonder Mike, Big Bank Hank, and Master Gee (Sugar Hill Gang); Jalil Hutchins, John Fletcher and Drew Carter (Whodini); Chuck D.; MC Hammer.

I mean, seriously, you kids today think that P. Diddy is a rapper!

And yes, I realize I sound like Grampa Simpson. ; )

Posted by: Joe Carter at October 16, 2004 08:10 AM


People who claim to speak for others usually don't. People who need to cloak their own opinion if the wrap of "we" should just take their opinion and "we" on it.
And I speak for all white folk when I say that.
Well, for all white males over 72. Named Walter.

Posted by: Walter E. Wallis at October 16, 2004 08:31 AM


Uhh, Joe...MC HAMMER?! a great rapper? *chokes* I won't touch that.

Posted by: memer at October 16, 2004 09:11 AM


Memer,

Uhh, Joe...MC HAMMER?! a great rapper? *chokes* I won't touch that.

Oh, the people scoff now, but Hammer was once the man. In fact, almost every wannabe-rapper rips off either Chuck D. (or his first generic knock off, Ice Cube) or Hammer.

For example, look at P.Diddy. He's nothing but Hammer with a better wardrobe.

Posted by: Joe Carter at October 16, 2004 09:31 AM


Well actually Joe, I don't say that about everybody. I realize that we didn't invent hip-hop. In fact, you'll NEVER hear me say that (and for some reason I think you already know I don't think that).

I have much respect for the pioneers in the game and I'll have you know that I don't even consider "Puff" whatever a rapper. He's a pimp..lol I oke at KRS One because I do think he's all washed up--by choice. I start to lose resepect for people when they don't know how to respect the "seasons of life" if you know what I mean. WHY oh why was Boyz II Men trying to come out with another album? Let it got fellas. Become producers. Write, mentor, do something! I see KRS One in that same category.

That was my point, no disrespect to KRS One, although at this point, I question how much respect he really deserves. And I agree, Hammer was a pioneer. When dude was hot, he was hot.

Posted by: Ambra Nykol at October 16, 2004 09:51 AM


NOBODY put on a better show than Hammer.
(either work hard or you might as well quit)
Still one of my favorite lines.

Don't forget about Kool Moe Dee.

KRS-1 is a babbling idiot who wants people to think he's "deep"

Posted by: seal-lover at October 16, 2004 02:39 PM


Ambra,

Are you saying that performing hip-hop is only for the young?

I'll be the first to admit that I know very little about contemporary hip-hop. I'm probably a bit more in touch with the original hip-hop back in the 40s and 50s; one of the progenitors to R&B, country, and rock'n'roll.

But still, there are quite a few folks who have been excellent singers/performers well into their autumn years. Frank Sinatra, for example, or Aretha Franklin. Or Ray Charles, or Pablo Casals. Ok, Pablo was an instrumentalist. ;)

There are quite a few singer/songwriters out there who do well, without respect to age. Then again, I'll concede that some folks might consider retirement. It seems that both Elton John and (worse) Phil Collins have become generic theme music producers for Disney soundtracks. Pity. John wrote some fantastic stuff back in the day; Tickin' should be required study for any music composition major. The rythms and patterns of the notes draw a picture of what was physically happening in the story as much as the lyrics were. And Collins was a charter member of Brand X, and Genesis.

Even some of the rockers have shown excellent longevity; Aerosmith, for example. One of the few groups who's work has been covered by rappers (Walk this Way w/RUN DMC), and country singers (I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing, by Mark Chesnutt)

Heck, I'd still rather listen to Wilson Pickett today, or Sam Moore than most of the new folks around. But then, what's called R&B these days isn't worth the name, if you ask me. :)

But that's just me...

Posted by: Casey Tompkins at October 16, 2004 10:53 PM


All I have to say is that did you, Ambra, bare witness to his complete thoughts? You held me accountable, last weak, for failing to not the context and spirit in which a thread of yours was created. I ask you…is there a possibility that you, in the absence of the full context of his conversation, are guilty of taking his quotes out of context?

There used to be a saying that what goes around comes around. To suggest that the USA has never done anything that would warrant something negative coming back around to it is simply delusional. Even ex president Clinton, not long after the incidents of 911, came out and said something to the effect that due to our history of slavery and other things…this event happened. Do you all remember that?

I felt nothing one way or the other after 911. There are people who die around the world every day…some as the consequence of our governments policies and actions. I do place premiums on lives based upon their nationality…but most Americans do…especially those who consider themselves to be conservatives. When Timothy Mcvey blew up the Federal building in Oklamhoma…a lot of white anti government types cheered in this nation. I do not doubt that many black people smirked or cheered too, that someone attacked the symbols of white supremacy and wealth... Personally...I was NOT one of them cheering...but I knew it was past due...given that every action eventually produces an opposite reaction

Posted by: Noah The African at October 17, 2004 12:36 PM


Noah, I agree with you on many levels. Did you even read the last paragraph of my post? I said there was some truth, however deeply hidden in a couple of KRS-One's words.

I never once suggested that America is beyond reproach. In fact, I think I spend a great deal of time around here talking about all the stuff I see wrong with America and us Americans.

The fact still stands that even in reading his rebuttal, it is clear that KRS One is for lack of a ebtter phrase, "on some other stuff". It's been long known that he himself if prone to say "off" things. Count this as one of them.

Posted by: Ambra Nykol at October 17, 2004 04:52 PM


There is NO excuse for what happened on Sept. 11, period!

Posted by: Steven J. Kelso Sr. at October 18, 2004 01:57 PM


KRS is just a communist stuck in the world of September 10. To be honest. he hasn't even moved past the falling of the Berlin Wall.

He is still a communinst who wants to see the US loose to the USSR. Since they are gone, any facist-idealist types will do.

This month it it the Islamofacists, next month it will be the drug cartels. If they are against us, he's for it. This is not my complaint against protestors, it is my complaint aginst those who REALLY hate the US.

From what I've heard, this really makes me want to see "Team America" even more. It's nice to see the self-righteous ridiculed publicly.

Posted by: Byron R. at October 19, 2004 11:27 AM


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